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exiled mat · Dec 01, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Pure luck

Now how do i get rid of my aura of unluckyness ?

JediKnight · Dec 01, 2006, 11:00 AM // 11:00

I get the feeling that unlucky is an account wide thing.

Main character went from Ice caves of Sorrow all thru to Ring of fire. I was in the same PuG for all 4 missions. they all got at least 2-3 golds each, I got....0

2nd character in Nightfall PuG for first 3 missions same thing 0 golds for me, loads for them.

I musta seriously pissed off one of the Gods to deserve bad luck like this.

darkmaster95 · Dec 01, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52

I know wat u mean about being unlucky. onetime i killled ghal like 6 or 7 times and got squat it suks but haiju is a very lucky place im always getting great mods there

malevolence · Dec 01, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Is just lucky: I was in a Party of 5 ppl, for SF , orozar farming ,and I got 4 or 5 greens in 1 run =D .

But I never got a Superior Vigor rune since GW came out LOL

TheRaven · Dec 01, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

jesus I hope I never get in a pug with the OP, I just might be reported for doing nothing

gg

Geez, cut me some slack will ya. I never said that I reported anyone. I said that others in my group did. I also said that I'm new to the game, so I posted a simple question. I honestly wanted to know if a hack like this was possible. I recently stopped playing another online game because of all the cheat hacks being used. I enjoy games like this and I'm very competitive. I'm still new, but I want to progress to the point where I can be one of the top players in a top guild. (Yeah, right, maybe in a year or 2). That was my goal in the game that I left, but found that it was impossible to compete without buying several 3rd party hacks and cheating. I lost almost every competition I entered to hackers.

This particular quest was on Shing Jea Island so the drops, even the gold ones, aren't worth very much so it doesn't really matter in the bigger scheme of things, but I would like to know if this is a cheat I need to worry about before paying to join a FoW group.

So far, I haven't seen much obvious cheating in this game, and I really like it, however I do see a lot of ads on the net for auto-bots and farming bots and hacks. I hate those things and don't want to find that I can't get decent armor and weapons without them. I know A-net will ban cheaters, but they can't possibly catch everyone without a full time army working for them.

Etrik · Dec 01, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

I got 5 ectos from 5 smites in a row once while duoing UW. They were the only ectos that dropped that run. It's pure luck

MegaMouse · Dec 01, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Thats just it,A-net and NC-soft need help to catch the cheaters thats why they have us the ingme players reporting others. If they don't find anything then thats cool, but every tie we report something the teams at A-Net and NC-Soft look at the records of that time and look for anything unusual. Sometimes it's just a bug that they "promptly" fix, other times it may be a hack, but we need to be vigilant too, letting them know about things that are suspicious. I have been in teams where one has beeen afak to get lvled up, but that is fixed now, you must be within the attacking groups aggro range to get any exp now and if I am not mistaken you must at least attack one target to get the exp from all of them (not real sure of that but currently testing the theory). The anti-farming code kicks in when someone constantly goes into the same area, I am not too sure how many times a person must enter the same area to kick it in but to keep it from kicking in on me I will go to another map for a bit just to be on the safe side. That usualy keeps the anti-farming code from kicking on me.
As far as hacks go someone out there is always trying to find an easy way to get what they want, but A-Net and NC-Soft close the holes as soon as they find them or are told of them. Thats why even if they don't find anything fishy going on we need to report the suspicious oens to them.

Mega Mouse

Former Ruling · Dec 01, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Same with Luck, I Chest Run one day with a friend (he wanted to learn the route) I got 4 outta 5 Gold, and he got 1 outta 5 gold... Next run I got 3 of 4 Gold, he got no golds.

I certainly didn't hack the chests :\

Loviatar · Dec 01, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMouse

Sometimes it's just a bug that they "promptly" fix, other times it may be a hack,
As far as hacks go someone out there is always trying to find an easy way to get what they want, but A-Net and NC-Soft close the holes as soon as they find them or are told of them. Thats why even if they don't find anything fishy going on we need to report the suspicious oens to them.

Mega Mouse

get your terms straight.

a *bug* is something already *ingame* that someone can *exploit* to their advantage the best known being the *repeat ascention* exploit.

all of this is SERVER SIDE

a *HACK* is something introduced from the outside that has an effect on the game to the persons advantage.

stop calling a bug/exploit a hack as it is not a person hacking the game from CLIENT SIDE

Warrior Of The Toon · Dec 01, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Well I've had some good spurts of drops in the game, for example 3 golds in as manay minute in Vizunah Square, after just about everyone else had gotten one each. And now me and a guild are going through the Tyrian story with new chars, my wammo seems to be getting all purples and the one gold that has dropped

|pyro| · Dec 01, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Clear your greedy soul.

byteme! · Dec 01, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Jesus I hope I never run into these so-called, "Pros" in the OP's group. Wouldn't want to be called a ,"Hacker" because I get better drops then them. Ran into a few back in the day when SF farming was still the thing to do. Some guy got really really pissed at me because I had 4 greens drop for me and no one else. He ragequitted and started pm'ing me with profanity. I only laughed at his immaturity.

Zakarr · Dec 02, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

get your terms straight.

a *bug* is something already *ingame* that someone can *exploit* to their advantage the best known being the *repeat ascention* exploit.

all of this is SERVER SIDE

a *HACK* is something introduced from the outside that has an effect on the game to the persons advantage.

stop calling a bug/exploit a hack as it is not a person hacking the game from CLIENT SIDE

I have read from somewhere that it is possible to modify "core data" via exploit if you manage to execute proper outside code on the server. One form of these kinds of exploits would be buffer overflow vulnerability although I don't know how far you can go with that. Other thing is that how you could alter certain things in unknown software data. It would take days or more to figure out its functions. Very theoretical threat. Wiping out all the data is very easy comparing how to control an unknown software. However, theoretically exploits have a chance to "introduce something from the outside" too.

So I'm pretty sure too that arbitrary hacks are quite impossible with Guild Wars servers. At least with current knowledge.

MegaMouse · Dec 03, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

This is for Loviator: I was not callling a bug a hack. I was trying to explain the differencew and YOU are the only one who either did not read the entire post, or just tried to read into it what you felt like it. There are known bugs/exploits within the game that A-Net and NC-Soft are constantly finding about. That is the reason for some of the small updates. And as far as the "repeat Ascension" that is a part of the game that has been around since it came out and is not a "bug/expliot", it is just repeatable thats it nothing more. How do you think that you can get the bonus for ascending if you can't repeat it. I am not sure how long you have been playing but as for me I have been around since the game came out and have seen a lot of "bug's/exploits" come and go. As players find and report them, they get fixed.
As far as Hacks go, it is entirely possible to find some code online that will manipulate anything, wether it be a ame or someone elses computer, you just gotta know where and what to look for.
Next time read the whole post before responding.

Mega Mouse

Loviatar · Dec 03, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMouse

This is for Loviator And as far as the "repeat Ascension" that is a part of the game that has been around since it came out and is not a "bug/expliot", it is just repeatable thats it nothing more. How do you think that you can get the bonus for ascending if you can't repeat it.

wrong.

i am refering to the exploit where the same character could abort , collect the exp, and repeat as many times as they wanted.

ANET banned several accounts over this one and it is listed in the update fixes.

Quote:

I am not sure how long you have been playing but as for me I have been around since the game came out

Mega Mouse

and i have been playing since the early BWE before release and so what?

Spike · Dec 03, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49

The drops are randomly given to players. EG I've just done 3 oro runs with the same group in which 6 greens and 6 golds droped and I did'nt get a single one, and another got 3 of each. This guy and me both opened 6 chests he got all purple I got 5 golds. You going to report me and him for hacking too ?

falling demon · Dec 03, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55

i had 2 Black dye drops and a White dye drop on my first 8 kills on my Canthan Ele (from the lvl 2 mantids..) twas madness.. but now.. he's level 20, is halfway through NF and Cantha is finished, and has only had 2 gold drops, and 5 purple drops, so meh, it's all luck etc.

You two, this thread is about the random drops, not how long you have been playing.. like the arguments that kids have.. my dad has a bigger shotgun and he will shoot you and you will die.. i don't care my dad will kill your dad with his super powers (Ok, so I'm exaggerating a little, but you get the idea, so shut up arguing)

Cheeva B · Dec 09, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

I hate when people do that lol. On an FoW farm, we completed Menzies quest and then all the way to clearing the forge. I recieved 5 shards, and the rest of the group didnt get a single one. I was accused the same way, but the only person that didnt jump on the accusation band wagon, I gave a shard to. People were threatening to quit, but stayed and they finally started dropping for others in the Restore the Forge quest. Until that time though, I seen some words that I think should make this game rated M lol. Just because someone gets good drops, its not cool to automatically assume they are hacking or exploiting...randomness could mean equal, or lopsided, other wise instead of random drops, you'd have someone get a drop and know they wont get anything and leave right then and there.

Rainman · Dec 09, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

thats crap :| i am lucky and unlucky. i get good items but noone will want to buy :O

ANet give me 2403 ectos plz!

i once got a bone dragon(appeared in my inventory and i noticed it when i went to farm fow) and 2 golds (shadow bow req 9 15%-5) then straight after that onto next mob there was a chest. opened it sup vigor then killed mob and got 1 shard and 1 black dye o.O the worse part of it is that they would only buy shards and dye (i needed my vigor)

Cow Tale · Dec 09, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28

yea well my mom will kill all of your dads with her horrid cooking! so there!

Dec 09, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15	#39
Rainman Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: none Profession: P/	thats crap :\| i am lucky and unlucky. i get good items but noone will want to buy :O ANet give me 2403 ectos plz! i once got a bone dragon(appeared in my inventory and i noticed it when i went to farm fow) and 2 golds (shadow bow req 9 15%-5) then straight after that onto next mob there was a chest. opened it sup vigor then killed mob and got 1 shard and 1 black dye o.O the worse part of it is that they would only buy shards and dye (i needed my vigor) Last edited by Rainman; Dec 09, 2006 at 10:22 AM // 10:22..

Dec 01, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22	#21
exiled mat Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The netherlands > friesland > balk Guild: [JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo Profession: E/Me	Pure luck Now how do i get rid of my aura of unluckyness ?

Dec 01, 2006, 11:00 AM // 11:00	#22
JediKnight Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: A Galaxy Far Far Away Profession: W/R	I get the feeling that unlucky is an account wide thing. Main character went from Ice caves of Sorrow all thru to Ring of fire. I was in the same PuG for all 4 missions. they all got at least 2-3 golds each, I got....0 2nd character in Nightfall PuG for first 3 missions same thing 0 golds for me, loads for them. I musta seriously pissed off one of the Gods to deserve bad luck like this.

Dec 01, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52	#23
darkmaster95 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Dagons Of Darkness Profession: W/Mo	I know wat u mean about being unlucky. onetime i killled ghal like 6 or 7 times and got squat it suks but haiju is a very lucky place im always getting great mods there

Dec 01, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09	#24
malevolence Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006	Is just lucky: I was in a Party of 5 ppl, for SF , orozar farming ,and I got 4 or 5 greens in 1 run =D . But I never got a Superior Vigor rune since GW came out LOL

Dec 01, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12	#26
Etrik Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Romania Guild: None atm Profession: Mo/	I got 5 ectos from 5 smites in a row once while duoing UW. They were the only ectos that dropped that run. It's pure luck

Dec 01, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22	#27
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	Thats just it,A-net and NC-soft need help to catch the cheaters thats why they have us the ingme players reporting others. If they don't find anything then thats cool, but every tie we report something the teams at A-Net and NC-Soft look at the records of that time and look for anything unusual. Sometimes it's just a bug that they "promptly" fix, other times it may be a hack, but we need to be vigilant too, letting them know about things that are suspicious. I have been in teams where one has beeen afak to get lvled up, but that is fixed now, you must be within the attacking groups aggro range to get any exp now and if I am not mistaken you must at least attack one target to get the exp from all of them (not real sure of that but currently testing the theory). The anti-farming code kicks in when someone constantly goes into the same area, I am not too sure how many times a person must enter the same area to kick it in but to keep it from kicking in on me I will go to another map for a bit just to be on the safe side. That usualy keeps the anti-farming code from kicking on me. As far as hacks go someone out there is always trying to find an easy way to get what they want, but A-Net and NC-Soft close the holes as soon as they find them or are told of them. Thats why even if they don't find anything fishy going on we need to report the suspicious oens to them. Mega Mouse

Dec 01, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#28
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Same with Luck, I Chest Run one day with a friend (he wanted to learn the route) I got 4 outta 5 Gold, and he got 1 outta 5 gold... Next run I got 3 of 4 Gold, he got no golds. I certainly didn't hack the chests :\

Dec 01, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51	#30
Warrior Of The Toon Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Returning after a 50 month break. Hi. Guild: None Profession: R/	Well I've had some good spurts of drops in the game, for example 3 golds in as manay minute in Vizunah Square, after just about everyone else had gotten one each. And now me and a guild are going through the Tyrian story with new chars, my wammo seems to be getting all purples and the one gold that has dropped

Dec 01, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20	#31
\|pyro\| Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: Me/	Clear your greedy soul.

Dec 01, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56	#32
byteme! Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On Earth Profession: W/P	Jesus I hope I never run into these so-called, "Pros" in the OP's group. Wouldn't want to be called a ,"Hacker" because I get better drops then them. Ran into a few back in the day when SF farming was still the thing to do. Some guy got really really pissed at me because I had 4 greens drop for me and no one else. He ragequitted and started pm'ing me with profanity. I only laughed at his immaturity.

Dec 03, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27	#34
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	This is for Loviator: I was not callling a bug a hack. I was trying to explain the differencew and YOU are the only one who either did not read the entire post, or just tried to read into it what you felt like it. There are known bugs/exploits within the game that A-Net and NC-Soft are constantly finding about. That is the reason for some of the small updates. And as far as the "repeat Ascension" that is a part of the game that has been around since it came out and is not a "bug/expliot", it is just repeatable thats it nothing more. How do you think that you can get the bonus for ascending if you can't repeat it. I am not sure how long you have been playing but as for me I have been around since the game came out and have seen a lot of "bug's/exploits" come and go. As players find and report them, they get fixed. As far as Hacks go, it is entirely possible to find some code online that will manipulate anything, wether it be a ame or someone elses computer, you just gotta know where and what to look for. Next time read the whole post before responding. Mega Mouse

Dec 03, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49	#36
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	The drops are randomly given to players. EG I've just done 3 oro runs with the same group in which 6 greens and 6 golds droped and I did'nt get a single one, and another got 3 of each. This guy and me both opened 6 chests he got all purple I got 5 golds. You going to report me and him for hacking too ?

Dec 03, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55	#37
falling demon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: dunno Guild: Dawn's Omen {Leader} Profession: W/Mo	i had 2 Black dye drops and a White dye drop on my first 8 kills on my Canthan Ele (from the lvl 2 mantids..) twas madness.. but now.. he's level 20, is halfway through NF and Cantha is finished, and has only had 2 gold drops, and 5 purple drops, so meh, it's all luck etc. You two, this thread is about the random drops, not how long you have been playing.. like the arguments that kids have.. my dad has a bigger shotgun and he will shoot you and you will die.. i don't care my dad will kill your dad with his super powers (Ok, so I'm exaggerating a little, but you get the idea, so shut up arguing)

Dec 09, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39	#38
Cheeva B Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: [ESP] Profession: W/	I hate when people do that lol. On an FoW farm, we completed Menzies quest and then all the way to clearing the forge. I recieved 5 shards, and the rest of the group didnt get a single one. I was accused the same way, but the only person that didnt jump on the accusation band wagon, I gave a shard to. People were threatening to quit, but stayed and they finally started dropping for others in the Restore the Forge quest. Until that time though, I seen some words that I think should make this game rated M lol. Just because someone gets good drops, its not cool to automatically assume they are hacking or exploiting...randomness could mean equal, or lopsided, other wise instead of random drops, you'd have someone get a drop and know they wont get anything and leave right then and there.

Dec 09, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#40
Cow Tale Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Guild: Last Sun Rise Profession: W/Mo	yea well my mom will kill all of your dads with her horrid cooking! so there!